Sacha Stone on NewEarth’s Mission

Interview with Dan Miele for NewEarth Media: https://newearth.media

Often times when presented with ideas that challenge the cultural, societal and economic memes, people will discard them thinking they are idealistic and impossible to achieve. But today we live in times of constant change. The human race is beginning to understand how the world works and is lifting the veil after many millennia of being bamboozled by the power players of civilization.

Enter the New Earth Nation: a movement dedicated to expanding and progressing human sovereignty and consciousness. The notion was conceived almost fifteen years ago but has recently garnered a commanding presence, with almost a quarter of a million members on its Facebook page alone. Clearly its message resonates with many awakened individuals around the planet.

I recently sat down on a call with New Earth Nation founder Sacha Stone to get a better understanding of the organization’s true purpose, how it relates to people, some of the issues surrounding its formation, and where it’s headed in the future.
Transcript:

DAN MIELE (DM), New Earth Press: First off, nice to talk with you. What I think some people want to know is, who is Sacha Stone and how did he find himself where he is today?

SACHA STONE (SS): I don’t want to sound sanctimonious, but I’m not so sure that I’m keen to go into my own story that much; not for any reason other than I’m really bored to death with my story. I’m just a living man and like all of us, have had a realization and that realization has actuated into more of a sense of being than a sense of doing. And that sense of being is the wellspring of the new metric which we are now evolving, which demands our dignity, our sovereignty, and our creative expression as the prime mover of our reality field. No longer are we to be harvested energetically, intellectually, spiritually, socially, civilizationally into the old orders of priesthoods, bankers, and sociopaths who have littered our history.

So really all I am is a living man who speaks to that stuff in the now. And that is why I am not particularly interested in my story, because my story, like most stories, is largely a lie, it’s largely a deception, whether I know it or not. I think that what I’m getting at is that a true zero-point social ecology and a true zero-point economy and a zero-point in our consciousness demands that we release ideas of the past.

DM: At what point did you realize the world needed that social, environmental and economic reboot as you were just describing?

SS: It was the point of inception when the sperm hit the egg, frankly. Because if we are truly attuned to the soul journey, and I’m only concerned about my soul journey because that’s the lens I wear; if I wear that lens in pure truth it becomes the story of the human family. I need look no further than my own heart and my own path; which is, incidentally, the alphabet of selfhood, as opposed to the egoic alphabet. There’s a huge distinction there.

But if we do look to our own story, through the lens of pure truth we find that we journey back in time to a state where we were arguably two or three years of age, one year of age. When we first banged our head against a table leg or were violated by another human being, harmed in any way; that could be a sharp slap, it could be anything. And the moment that we first engaged with the other, in a negative or intrusive sense, when we were first violated by a sense of the other. It could have been banging our head into a wall or an altercation with an adult or even another child. But the point is, once we suffered the indignity of intrusion against self that violated us into a trajectory of antipathy where we began to separate ourselves from the other and began to enmitize the world to a great extent and see that the world hurts, people hurt, relationships hurt, circumstances hurt. Then we began to build walls psychologically around ourselves and protect ourselves and defend ourselves and the rest, as they say, is history.

But I really want to address that point at which that violation occurred and move before that moment. We were in a typhonic state of consciousness. You then move back to the surgeon’s knife cutting the umbilical cord, and that being the very first violation. It’s a patriarchal separation; it’s an imposition and it’s an indignity, this is not natural. And then prior to that, of course, we were in the fluid of the mother’s womb. In that space were connected to the heart and mind of Gaia. We were only feeling at the fractal level, feeling the energetics of inner Earth as they speak through our mother’s kundalini. We were receiving the codes, the undiluted codes, from the solar and galactic principle actuating within the Earth and we were in that typhonic state of bliss, the Eden. So that, for me, is really the narrative we need to look at and recognize that we have it in us. We are fundamentally connected to source consciousness. We carry the codes, we carry the transduction technology within our bio-organism to be able to constantly receive those codes of the vibral mind even as we move into life.

But again, we need to address the first intrusion, the first principle of violation which occurred against us. Whether it was being beaten up in the playground or being slapped by the surgeon or having the symbiotic flesh cut by the surgeon’s knife. We need to psychologically address this. And then go right back to the actual inception in the womb, as well, where there was as egg and the sperm invaded the egg and actually breached the membrane. That was a violent act, be clear about this. Duality, the dualistic principle, the dance of Shiva and Shakti, all of this stuff is writ large under the microscope with the sperm and the egg.

So again, my story is our story, it’s the story of separation and wanting to address it, really look to it and understand it dynamically at the most subtle levels. Then in that space, realizing that the duality premise is hardwired into everything in this field of expression and yet, we have the right and we have the soul orientation to be able to transcend the dualistic principle at any stage in the journey. That is what the sacred now is all about and that is what the New Earth Nation, as a living principle, addresses. And we can look at it from an ecological perspective, an economic perspective, a sociological perspective, a philosophical perspective, a spiritual dimension and it all speaks to the same thing. Be present and fully attentive in the now. Let the entire universal mind and the vibral mind of creation inform this moment in time-space. And in this space, let me become one with creator and let me then fulfill my highest potential, my noble expression. Then we become the creators of our world, the New Earth. We build beautiful spaces, we engender beautiful dimensions and perspectives and that old history, that old serpent paradigm falls away like the old skin that it ever was.

DM: How would you describe the New Earth Nation to someone who might not be able to see in these terms, someone who might not be sure what its purpose is? The way you just described it there, is that how you would describe it to someone on the street?

SS: I wouldn’t describe it to someone on the street because we’re not in the business of proselytizing or prognosticating to anything or anyone in this veil of tears. So the short answer is it would depend entirely on how the question was fashioned, and the answer would be forthcoming. Because every animal is different, and if I am speaking to a Midwest Christian Baptist I’m going to
be speaking with a certain tone and a certain lexicon. If I am speaking to a 23 year-old rabid activist I am going to be speaking a different language. But the language is the same language, be sure.

DM: It’s just whether or not the person receiving that language has the capacity to take it in and do something with it, right?

SS: Yes and it’s simple stuff, it’s simple mathematic. Does one understand or comprehend that sovereignty is the same as consciousness and that consciousness is the same as sovereignty? Does one comprehend that one cannot be sovereign without being conscious and one cannot be conscious without being sovereign? Does one understand that time, money, and fear are the same equation? And can one see that they are absolutely the same value, the same thing, or not? If one cannot see that time, money and fear are the same thing, then one is not equal to the conversation of sovereignty or of consciousness.

So again, the like attracts like in this sense. One can only put out the right signals, which is what we’re endeavoring to do with the New Earth Nation, in the hope that those signals act as a beacon to others through the laws of resonance. But it’s not about proselytizing, so I
wouldn’t speak on the street.

DM: Okay. I can already see happening what you’re saying. The people who are able to take in that language and understand the message are all coming together. I suppose this also leads to the same sort of response to people who say “Oh this isn’t going to work”. Well if they say it’s not going to work, they’re not understanding the language. Right?

SS: Yes, it’s hardly worth engaging with that attitude because it’s an intellectually dead attitude. It has no life to it. Why would one engage with it if it is dead?

DM: Now as you were saying in terms of time, money, and fear…once we’ve done away with those things, how will people in New Earth communities, retreats or any other New Earth location be spending their time on a daily basis when they have all this time to spend?

SS: Simply put, we engage with creative expression. Because when you are not being driven by time, being owned by money, and being motivated through fear then one naturally sits upon the grass, so to speak, and engages with creative enterprise. So we begin to build the most beautiful world that each of us can conceive of, starting with our adobe hut. We start to remember our soul purpose. We reengage with the earth, and once we’ve connected with our creative expression and that is caked in, we begin to be freed up to imagine and then build out the world we wish to see. At that point we really start to activate the higher consciousness aspect of being and of course the immortal DNA.

And I can hear the jaded skeptics howling with laughter at such a ludicrous notion, but of course what have they ever known? The jaded skeptics in our midst have never known anything to themselves, they have never offered up to the world a single creative construct. So we should not concern ourselves with the hearts and minds and the voices of the jaded skeptics in our midst. The reactuation of immortal DNA, the edenic principle… Eden from whence we were not cast out. That is a biblical, apocryphal lie. We left the edenic privilege. There was no fall; we took a backward dive into oblivion in order to be remembered to ourselves one fine day. And at that point of remembering ourselves we act as the absolution principle for the lower realms of expression.

Living sons and daughters of God is what we are, every last one of us. And there was no such thing as being cast out of paradise; there was no such thing as the great fall. We volunteered at the soul level to take a dive into this far-flung quadrant of the multiverse, knowing that it would take a long passage of time for us to remember ourselves to ourselves. But when we did, and we are right now at that Rubicon where we are remembering our immortality, remembering our divinity, and in so doing and so being we are becoming the living bodhisattva. We become the anchor point of the lower realms expression toward the celestial world. What on Earth else is this about? Why on Earth would we volunteer at the soul level to come into a world like this, if it were not to drag it out of the depths of misery and anchor it into the celestial template? That is what our noble expression determines and dictates. And those of us who are participating in this beautiful dance, for instance with the New Earth Nation, we are remembering ourselves to ourselves in that doing.

DM: Do you think that’s why there have been so many people who have come forward to the New Earth Nation, because it is this visceral feeling, you can feel it, it feels right, and so you go forward with that?  

SS: Yes, it’s the quantum phenomenon. Again, an actuating human heart engages in the vertical and disengages from the lateral plane of time-space. It begins to engage in the vertical, the transcendent, the ascentionist paradigm. In that space it’s like a parascope, we are
still living flesh and living according to the time-space illusion. But where we are placing  ourselves, our true witness is occurring in more of a vertical sense and we are seeing further afield in that vertical transcendent witness standpoint. We are able to connect to one another vibrally through the quantum field at that level. Our psionic or intuitive intelligence kicks in, this is the gut, and we begin to know what we know, what we know. And we come together as the true family.

But it’s not the articulation of words and doctrines that are bringing us together. Words and doctrines were used by priesthoods; by arcane logic being dictated to us by cloisters of men hiding behind veils, trying to determine the shape of destiny. Effectively what they were doing was harvesting humanity in that process. 

DM: Just going on that a bit you speak of the Babylonian priesthood, could you describe that a bit? Who is that, what does it entail, what is their purpose?

SS: Sure, but I feel it’s rather disingenuous to speak about the Babylonian priesthood on it’s own. Because if I were in Southwest Africa, Central Africa, or Central America, or Southeast Asia I would need to address people of those parts of the world with a completely different aspect of their heritage. In Africa it would be the Leopard Cult, it would be all sorts of egregious and nefarious witch doctoring that has gone on and dream spelling and magic casting by rogue shamanic interests in different parts of the world. But so long as you and I are sitting in the Anglo-Saxon playing field let’s talk about that.

The why is known to us and has always been known to us. It is the sacrifice of innocence. It’s stuff that is now being so refined today that it’s become a soul science practically. So we are harvested pretty much from birth, from the moment the certificate of live birth is issued in the hospital and the placenta is placed into a kidney dish and the child or infant is then discharged from the hospital. The infant and its mother leave the hospital, whereupon we are declared missing at sea or lost at sea. Because we already entered a contract by being birthed through the mother’s canal and being received by the dock authority, which is the “doctor”. So the harvesting begins at our birth. And that certificate of live birth is then flipped into a birth registration certificate, that certificate is offered up to Cronus, the Crown, the king, or the state and we are indentured into a trust. We are presumed “missing at sea” because we left the hospital and never came back and claimed our DNA.

It gets a little complicated there and I could go into great detail for anyone who is interested. At that point we are indentured into a trust because we’ve gone missing and we’re clearly not able to look after our person. Our “person” is the corporate fiction, which at that point takes ownership of the percentage of the country that you are owed.

Because when you are born into a country you are worth a percentage of the entire commonwealth of that country. And that amount, if you are the millionth person born, you are worth one millionth of the commonwealth of that country. That amount of money, or value, or asset is indentured into your trust. So your birth bond is the value of that percentage of the commonwealth. And from a few days after you are born you are invariably traded on the stock market in your corporate nation state and for the rest of your life you are generating tremendous revenues but you don’t get to see them. You are being harvested monetarily as a unit of currency. So that, at the monetary level, is how we are harvested.

At the soul level we are being suckered into temples, cathedrals, and churches and what have you. We are being invited not into the Christos principle of the true Christian perspective, but invariably we are being hoodwinked by various priesthoods, churches and various religious inculcations. We are being hoodwinked into false light worship invariably. So the sacrifice of innocence continues unabated through the temples, which are banks, judiciaries, legislatures, corporates nation states and churches working hand in 7 glove with those corporate fictions. Even the church is a corporate fiction, they’re all fictions. And then of course the schools, universities and colleges, which also purely indoctrinate us and segregate us from true creative learning. And so on, and so on, and so on.

Then we’re spat into life, which will only acknowledge us as a corporate fiction, as the identity paper. It doesn’t recognize us as the living man or the living woman. And then we have to do a job, we have to perpetuate a function, and that function is a function of time and money. What drives it is fear, that’s what’s in the engine. We have to do it in order to make the money and we have to regard time as money and money as time. Which again, is the sacrifice of our innocence. We are literally being harvested and we don’t reap the benefits of that time and that money unless we buy a plasma screen TV and six cans of beer and we get drunk. That is the best that we are allowed to enjoy of the illusion that we’ve been suckered into. So that is good old fashioned Canaanite ritualism, writ large in our day, in our time and we don’t even see it. Because we are under the thrall of the psychological media complex, of the education complex, which is indoctrination and propaganda, and invariably we don’t break out of that bubble. Right now we are breaking out of that bubble en masse and there are various reasons for this phenomenon. That’s probably something worth speaking to.

DM: This is something that is so deep, it has been happening for so long, that most people won’t even recognize that it is happening. They’re happy with it, or at least they think they are, but they truly don’t know what another and better reality would be like.

SS: Well it’s certainly true that addictions to sex and to alcohol, and to trivia and Hollywood schmaltz, and to all the toxicity in our civilization, those addictions, all of which are appetite lead and appetite driven, all of them are profoundly steeped in sorrow, in sadness; quite the opposite of happiness. But is that not a sad factoring that we are not even aware of what happiness is in this dystopian civilization?

DM: Well I think that definitely drives to the heart of it.

SS: Can I say something at this point?

DM: Sure, sure.

SS: It’s an important something. I will guarantee that every man, woman, and child who is attracted to the New Earth Nation, and I’m speaking principally about living men and women, that they, each of them, will have crossed the Rubicon within themselves. They, each of them, will have engaged with profound sorrow and resurrected self within or beyond that sorrow. I am certain in my mind that all people who are drawn to the great work that we’re engaged in, this great becoming and the New Earth Nation is only another totem, it’s only another icon, and we need to be very mindful of that. That it is an
ident, it’s a totem and we must not get into idolatry again.

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I will be the happiest man on Earth when the New Earth Nation no longer refers to itself as the New Earth Nation. I‘ll be the happiest man on Earth when we don’t need to speak in terms of a zero-point anything, because zero-point and being in zero-point does not require one speaking to it or about it. So when we really succeed at what we are endeavoring here and manifesting, we will transcend even the enclosure of the New Earth Nation and its definitions and the colors that make it up. We need to move beyond all of that ultimately, which I see happening in record-time frankly.

DM: I think we can all, at least those of us who are looking, see that happening and it’s a heartening thing. It keeps you on track to know that it’s happening and it’s not a question of if but when.

SS: Indeed. And the question is what is the New Earth Nation by definition? And the New Earth Nation by definition is the truest nation on the face of God’s green Earth and I’ll explain to you why. Because the other 253 corporate nation states, of which there are about 195 to 200 which are the primary corporate nation states that drive the matrix the 253 corporate nation states that exist are all existing in treason against the people, are all existing in dishonor of pure law, are all existing in abrogation and derogation of their founding principles and constitutions. Going back to the Bill of Rights, the Magna Carta and way before that.

We are really at this insidious space where there is complete psychosis on the planet but the New Earth Nation emerges in the here and now as the only nation on Earth which is legitimate under pure law and under pure truth. It is by the consent of the living men and women who declare it thus. That is what the New Earth Nation is. It does not require contracts, it does not require fiduciary duties and regulatory frameworks, and it doesn’t require being indentured into a corporate anything. It is no fiction, it is beyond fiction. It is the only nation on Earth that exists outside of fiction. That makes us the most legitimate nation on Earth, established as our own court of record and instituted by the consent of living men and living women. Not by “persons”, not by corporate fictions, not by people who are indentured into trusts and thus owned by their corporate nation states. If and when people get this and understand what I’ve just said, they will really get how powerful this is.

DM: And that is necessary. You need to understand this before you can make that next step, right?

SS: You really need to understand that this is not another Walt Disney episode where we’re trying to dream up a bunch of hobbits living together in some sustainable conscious community all smiling and trading apples for oranges. That’s delightful as a scenario but we’re talking about something immensely more powerful, which is the re-enervation of our immortal paradigm, of absolute health and wellness, of the capacity for the human to live for hundreds of years and to move outside of time, money and fear. Not as a wacky idea but as the living principle and engaging with physics, pure physics, the physics that are emerging today. These are very different to the Newtonian physics very, very different indeed. But again, and it’s what quantum physics is proving out, that what the observer thinks is going to happen, is what happens under the microscope. Well, go figure! The same applies to reality. What you want to manifest in life or what you think is going to manifest is what is going to manifest. So, yes indeed, that is the most important thing for people to understand and once they understand it everything else will lock and load beautifully psychologically.

Because when we talk about rebooting the ascension coding, we talk about rebooting the codons in our DNA. This is pure science, none of this is “woo woo” and yet, people are so asleep and so suckered into the dream spelling that their natural reductive response is to think we’re talking “woo woo” talk when we’re talking the most practical kind of elemental science. When we choose to disengage our attention from false and wrong timeline probabilities and we apply them to perfected matrices, then that is what we manifest. We determine that by consensus, each of us individually and collectively. So it’s really pure science that we’re talking about and in the days to come it’s going to be great to get drilled further into this and prove this stuff out. But again, it is being proven by quantum physics where the observer determines the outcome of the experiment. That teaches us what? Breakthrough science teaches us that where we set our minds, our bodies will follow, where we set our intentions, we manifest accordingly.

DM: So the reason why people think this is “woo woo” is because it’s just language and ideas that they’re not familiar with, or like you say, they are suckered into thinking it is “woo woo” stuff, correct?

SS: That’s correct, familiar with: fam, famine, drought, scarcity, fear, FAMiliar. There is an origin of every word and if you get into the etymology of every word we’re supposed to remain familiar with famine. We’re supposed to remain in a state of scarcity and fear reflex. This is hardwired into almost every word in the lexicon. So, this is why words themselves are idolatry, are totemism. We need to be very carful about the use of words.

That’s why I don’t like telling stories any longer. I don’t want to speak about my story. I don’t wish to cast another spell. It may have been true, it may not have been true, it may have been variously true, it is not the point, it is of no consequence. What is of consequence is the here and now and how you and I, on this call, are connecting into the exchange of fire; the true quantum of connectivity, of standing in truth and communicating from our centers. That is the language we need to engage with. The whole world needs to remember its psionic intelligence, its intuitive faculty needs to become completely reborn and that’s what’s happening right now. I dream of a world where we can communicate more through telepathy and intuitive logic than through the totems that words are.

DM: I completely see where you’re coming from on that. Every day I find myself thinking, “Look at how the words are used. It’s word magic. They’re doctoring the words.” If you look at what the words mean and how they’re used, you’ll always find your answer.

SS: Yes, yes.

DM: Once people come to grips with this sort of information and do feel that they’re ready to step into the New Earth Nation, what would they need to do in practical terms, in terms of joining physically in the locations of the New Earth? What would it take from their end, would it be contributing their time or paying somehow? How would that take place?

SS: Respectfully, they would have been required to have at least read the template and studied that portal whereupon that kind of question would be a moot subject. And I mean that, not to be disparaging, because what you’re saying is an issue for us. We have a lot of people being fairly superfluous and reading the surface of who and what we are, being attracted to the shallow notion of sovereignty and consciousness, and then reaching out and saying “help me.”

And the answer is no, absolutely not. This is not a charity; help yourself. If you want to engage with the New Earth then at least have the courtesy toward yourself to study the metric that has been painstakingly laid out there by many, many people, hundreds of people over decades. So, you know, spend a day, two days reading everything that’s there. Certainly the template is the ABC and that will answer those questions.

But yeah the exchange, in short, is that you bring self, actualized self, into the New Earth Nation and the New Earth Nation gives you the platform upon which you can prosper and bloom. And all the rest of it, all the fancy science of how we trade resources and assets and ideas, all of that is self-righting. It works itself out through the zero-point social ecology, because in that space there is no one standing over anyone else. This is not some communist whacko concept where we all trundle around in grey cardigans grinning at each other. It is not a transhumanist, eugenics concept. It is quite the opposite. We’re talking about re-engaging with the organic premise of being human and taking ourselves out of the artifice of the so-called civilization.

DM: Definitely the blueprint and templates that have been posted on the website are a good place for people to start. Go and plow through it all in a few days….

SS: And you see Dan, the point here is really about “what do you want?” as the newcomer, whoever the newcomer is. What do you want? You tell us. What do you envision? Bring that majesty, bring that expression, bring that dream, bring that fantasy, and bring that improbability. Bring it to this space. This space is that playing field, is that sub-space vacuum that will allow for anything and everything to emerge and manifest, provided it’s in attunement with pure truth. If it is in attunement with pure truth it will resonate to the people and the situations and the circumstances around it will conspire toward manifesting it. That’s a beautiful thing if you think about it. It means that righteousness really finds its feet.

This is what is meant in the old biblical message of “the meek will inherit the Earth.” It is a quantum phenomena and a quantum certainty that the highest tone in the symphony will ultimately draw all the bass tones toward it. The highest frequency in the room will draw all the bass frequencies, ultimately, up toward it. They do not fall down toward the bass frequencies. The laws of gravity do not apply in the quanta.

DM: It seems this would build upon what you said earlier. Eventually we’re hoping that the New Earth Nation as a description like that is done away with when people step into this kind of thinking.

SS: Yes, indeed. The very last thing I am wishing to see, in seven years time or ten years time, is thousands of fractal communities dotting the landscape. The fractal communities are a stunningly beautiful concept, which we’ve initialized in order to begin the process of re-engaging with ceremony and people engaging with the elemental and telluric intelligence of the Earth. Re-engaging their feet with the real magnetic properties of inner Earth. So, the fractal community model, if you study it, is based on the water molecule, sacred geometry and the sacred om. This is all about helping us to get back into attunement with the Earth, which is the crystal coding so to speak, which is the transduced solar coding so to speak, which in turn was the transduced galactic coding, meaning to say the Jacob’s ladder, our umbilical cord to the vibral mind of source. It’s all there, it’s all here in the present and we can access it all through the quanta. But we have to actuate the quantum ourselves. We have to participate in this revelation. It’s not something which will be gifted to us, we have to participate in it.

So moving out of a toxic city grid and moving into a fractal community in Chile, or in Mexico, or in Mozambique means that you are already making a determination to step outside of time, money and fear and engage with the other. And the other is the absence of fear, and the absence of fear begets love and fellowship. All of that begets wellness, and begets prosperity and abundance. And all the rest follows as a mathematical certainty. But we need to engage in that. That sacrament has to come from us and not from some godless priest trying to stick something in our mouths.

DM: That would most likely be the best thing that someone could do to aid the progress of this endeavor, is to participate and engage?

SS: Yes, and they can do it either through the retreats or they can do it by coming and guesting in a community once the communities go online, they can apply to go and spend a week, six months, a year or whatever as a transient resident in any number of the communities. They can simply move around communities as well, until they find that they want to settle in one place. And the land holdings are growing and accumulating at such a rate of knots. So you can then build out what you want to build out, provided that it conforms to the elemental practices that we’re engaged with and provided it’s in attunement with the logic that we’re deploying with the bio-architecture, which is connected to paramagnetics and dielectrics; it’s to do with marrying the atmosphere to the Earth in the right way, in a way which is conducive to health and wellness, and happiness, abundance and prosperity. Again, this is pure science.

Seven years ago, ten years ago, fifteen years ago you could have shot me down on talking about this stuff as though I was a complete loony toon, but today we have proven it out; Professor Konstantin Korotkov, Dan Winter, Nassim Haramein, very great minds have proven out much of this stuff nowadays. So, it’s just a question of us wanting now sufficiently to withdraw from the old order of things, which is entropic, intellectually dead and physically very harmful, and step out of that and step into the new. I believe that every single human being that has warm blood, and I don’t mean that as a joke, will resonate absolutely to this. This is the coming of age. It’s our graduation. It’s also the only exit strategy that is really presenting itself that I can see.

DM: Speaking of exit strategies, I’ve been drawing some comparisons with Michael Tellinger’s work in Ubuntu Contributionism, I know he’s been working with the New Earth Nation a lot. Like you said, you don’t want to see fractal communities all over the place and not having any purpose, but do you see that with time those communities, as Michael Tellinger describes, will become an example that then cascades into affecting everyone in terms of cities and towns everywhere and creating that domino effect?

SS: Yes, of course! What I meant by I don’t want to see tens of thousands of fractal communities staying as fractal communities is of course that I want to see millions of fractal communities, but I want to see them evolve into the next stage of evolution; which will be, if you study Mandelbrot or M-set mathematics, which is fractality and the premise of all that we’re witnessing in computers nowadays for the record. But if you understand how fractality works, it looks very ordered at certain points and then it breaks off into this completely kind of disparate weirdness, which becomes very inorganic in the
way it looks but it then comes back and regroups.

In the same way I envision, if we’re successful, that our fractal communities will end up hybridizing into all sorts of weird and wonderful expressions of architecture and buildout and homes and communities and villages and homesteads. The fractal is really the node. The fractal community is the node point. It’s like the cluster, which is a necessary point, the acupressure point, of where that logic that we’re deploying is most infused. But then I would like to see people building out and creating their own realities. People are able to do that even now with the master planning that we’re doing in the community models. There are plots of land adjunct to the fractal communities where people can simply take on a plot of land and build out what the hell they want, provided it doesn’t contaminate the other community.

DM: Right, which inherently pulls people off the grid, out of the city structure and the toxicity that that involves…

SS: Yes, the square walls, that’s correct; the angles which trap negative energy and the copper wires which are emitting completely rogue radiation and poisoning us and giving us cancers, the fluorescent and mercury infused light bulbs which are poisoning us and dulling our pineal functions. We’ve got water gushing through piping beneath us, above us, and around us. That water is also highly entropic; it’s very, very dangerous water. All municipal water is highly toxic. And it’s not just toxic to drink, it’s toxic to sit next to, to sleep next to, because it’s carrying fractal emissions which are utterly rogue and those fractal emissions are coming into our bio-circuitry and are completely short-circuiting our immortality.

So we’re constantly under siege and under attack from everything that conspires to become our built environment. And that’s not even getting into the serpent culture of the Freemasons and the secret societies that have infected the municipal planning from Washington, D.C. to Addis Ababa in Ethiopia; these bizarre Masonic agendas, which have sought to inculcate satanic ritualism into the city grids, and so on, and so on, and so on.

Stepping out of all of that deviation into a logically construed fractal New Earth community, well, if somebody regards that as being transhumanist and a new world order, because we’re being accused by a few detractors of simply trying to harvest people into this kind of utopian mythos before we set about sacrificing them, for God’s sake. Well, I would sooner move into a New Earth fractal community than stay in a city grid literally being poisoned in my sleep.

DM: It’s true, from every angle. Once you realize and start taking note of all these things around us that are just killing us…

SS: Yeah. Study the bio-architecture that we have developed over many years, and we are now putting out, which is going to be comprising the New Earth communities. You will not believe the advanced science that we have been discovering in the bio-architecture. Using the sacred number that we have been working with, predicated on the most perfect organic forms, Fibonacci sequencing, M-set mathematical sequencing, paramagnetics, and dielectrics, and the earthing and grounding that we’re doing; the fractal flow that we’ve managed to harness, we’re growing plants 300 to 350% stronger and taller by simply charging seeds in the center of the bio-architecture prototypes that we’ve built in Asia.

So we’ve created already extraordinary living environments that are feeding and infusing the DNA and the mitochondria into its true default. And that’s when it’s going to start getting exciting. When people move into these communities and start living to 150, 170 years of age without any difficulty. Indeed if you ask me, we should be living to many hundreds of years of age without faltering. That is hard-wired into our biology. Ignore every single professor of biology who will state otherwise. Ignore all of them. They are all rendered moot in the face of what we are discovering in the here and now. And that is because we are not transfixed to the delusions and the illusions that academia have been trading with themselves and with the world for millennia. We are no longer part of that transfixation, thank you. We have transcended it and we’re discovering for ourselves true origin. I speak to Michael Tellinger there, Sitchin, and all the great and good folks who have been doing extraordinary work in that area.

But in all the sciences…look at the pyramids being discovered, from Bosnia now to China and elsewhere. Extraordinary! Eyes wide shut. These monoliths, these megaliths, the biggest structures on the face of the Earth, they’ve been staring at us and we couldn’t even see them. It’s extraordinary and it’s about the magic and the dream spelling that are falling away, scales are falling away. We’re seeing things that were there all the time, the arcane artifacts, the ancient technologies which have been buried and sequestered on the face of this Earth and within, under the surface of this Earth for millennia are also coming to light now and so it goes on.

DM: There’s one last thing, it’s a question I pulled from the New Earth Nation Facebook page and I’d like to get your take on it. Someone asked, “How is this different from the Venus Project?”

SS: Well, very simply put, the Venus Project deals with centralized grids and we talk about decentralized grids. We’re not looking to utopianize cities. That is what the Venus Project is doing and doing with great gravity and great beauty. We are the opposite. We’re talking about decentralizing and getting people out of cities.

Cities are miasms. Cities are cancers. If you look at a body where you have a tumor, that is a miasm. A miasm is an energetic dysfunction that occurs. It’s either imposed or it occurs from some mutation in and of itself. But once that miasm occurs it accretes into a tumor and when that tumor is out of control it becomes a cancer and the cancer kills. A city, Rome, London or Londinium, to use its true name, Washington, all of these cities are the most egregious cancers. They are cancers in waiting. They are miasms, tumors. They are accreted false values, idolatry, and worship of false light. That is what brings people to cities. It is the promise, the lure of gold, and the lure of success, of whatever. It doesn’t matter; it’s false light worship, it’s Luciferianism. Cities are the accreted value of Luciferianism and we need to ultimately disengage from those miasms in order to get the body back into its true default. People need to leave those artificial vertical high-rises and go back into the agrarian communities where the soles of their feet reconnect with the elemental intelligence of the Earth and thereby boot them back into the immortal paradigm.

So we’re kind of being drawn upward in cities, falsely, as a Luciferian promise, the citadels of Babel drawing us up toward the atmosphere where we’re trying to reconnect with Yahweh and Jehovah and Zod the Almighty; these aggressive, angry, jealous old gods, these sons of bitches that really need to leave us once and for all. That’s my humor; you can ignore that last bit.

DM: No, that’s great. And I think that totally hits the point, for people coming at this from a very surface level; they’ll look the same. But you’ve described a very key difference.

SS: And I’m friendly with Jacques Fresco. The last time he came to London, he and Roxanne spent the whole day here.

DM: Well, thanks Sacha. I appreciate this and it’s great to be able to really speak with you and get your take on all of this. Hopefully we do get to the point where this is just understood and people participate and engage with it.

SS: Thank you, God bless. Bye now.

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